I leave Tumblr for half a day and then find Hong Kong all over my dash.
All I have to say is
- I am very suspicious of people saying “stop a second Tiananmen Square Massacre happening” because wow way to conflate the two and ignore the different factors in each. Not to mention people love holding up the Tiananmen Square Protests as a “students’ fight for democracy against communism” and that’s just so overly-simplistic? And then they use this as a reason to “help fight democracy by getting the US gov involved” and it’s like NOOOOOO do you understand what you’re doing, you’re just making things worse STOP STOP ABORT
- On that note, don’t sign the whitehouse petition. Again, no US intervention wanted nope.
- PLEASE don’t compare this to Ferguson. Repeat- don’t compare this to Ferguson. Ferguson has a different situation that is centered around anti-blackness and black genocide in the US, for gods sake don’t compare it to what’s happening in Hong Kong
- What’s happening in Hong Kong is serious, no doubt about that, and yes we should support the protestors there. But NOT in a way that misrepresents the issue and helps foster US imperialism.
OK.. but… the Hon Kong protestors have been actively using Hands Up Don’t Shoot. Obviously the issues at stake her shouldn’t be compared but I really don’t see the error in comparing the strength of oppressed people fighting for what is right. We saw the same with Gaza— two completely different issues, but there are comparisons/connections to be made in the peoples’ struggle, and above all else in the way these oppressed people connected with each other— by sharing via twitter for example tips to dealing with tear gas in the eyes. I mean certainly no one is going to compare anti-blackness to the democratic issues happening between Hong Kong and Beijing but I don’t see why people are so opposed to the very idea of connecting these events. It’s important to realize the difference between the peoples and politics and axes of oppression involved, I know, but I think the unification of oppressed people is a powerful and touching thing. Of course perhaps I’ve entirely misunderstood the post, wouldn’t be the first time for me…
Most of the Hong Kong protestors who are holding up their hands aren’t doing it purposefully as an act of solidarity towards Ferguson. Most people in Hong Kong have never heard of Ferguson. Instead it came out of training where the protest leaders taught everyone to hold their hands up so that they don’t appear threatening to the police. So no, it’s not like Gaza and Ferguson where there was an intentional bond of solidarity.
The problem I really have with HK<->Ferguson is that a lot of supporters of the HK protestors have been circulating this photo:
Do you see what’s problematic about this? It gives the Hong Kong protesters a good rep but it does so at the expense of pretty much every other protest that has happened or is happening- including Ferguson.
There’s also this article which has been going around a lot too.
Read between the lines. When people say “Look at these people who are getting hurt by the police even though they clean up after themselves and don’t cause vandalism, etc” they’re also saying “You only deserve civil treatment from the police/ government if you behave civil”. When the Ferguson Protests happened, a common argument that people used to justify the Police Brutality was that the protests were causing looting and vandalism. The Ferguson Protesters DESERVED police brutality was what they were basically saying.
Plus, the reason behind the strong bond created between the people of Ferguson and Gaza is not just because of “police brutality”. It goes deeper than that. It goes into White Supremacy and Western Imperialism. It goes into the systematic connections between Black Genocide (The Prison Industrial Complex, Stop and Frisk) and the Israeli Apartheid. I recommend these two posts if you haven’t read them already.
The situation in HK is slightly connected to that, when it comes to Western Imperialism and infringement on Civil Rights, but all in all it’s not as linked as Ferguson and Gaza are. Until the HK protestors themselves decide that they stand in solidarity with Ferguson, we can’t call that solidarity.
This reality is a bit harder to swallow: There are more white people in the US and Canada because the US and Canada were established using the systematic genocide of Native peoples, the theft of Native lands, and the labour of enslaved peoples in the past and immigrant peoples currently who were and are never meant to stay or survive.
And now you’re uncomfortable. Good.
When you accept and acknowledge that census figures reflect a long history of marginalization, it is preposterous to use these same figures as the benchmark to which you measure the inclusion of marginalized people.
you fucking dishonor Yuri Kochiyama’s legacy by using her life’s work as your “get out of anti-Black racism free” card
Am I the only one who isn’t trumpeting UCI’s rankings for the nth time? All I smell is some model minority crap that is designed to obscure the serious issues on campus.
appropriate white culture. dance offbeat at the club. scream at your barista when she doesn’t put enough splenda in your latte. clap at the movie theater when the credits roll. put your child on a leash.prefer to be called caucasian even if you’re not from the caucus region. only empathize with animals and yourself. write prolific dissertations on hunger games characters being oppressed then ignore oppression in real life.
Jay Smooth in his TED speech “how I learned to stop worrying and love discussing race” (via tropicanastasia)
Jay Smooth almost always a reblog
Dude nailed it. We all need to work at being good. Even if we think we are.
This applies to so much
So if no one is going to talk about the welfare of the person [Janay Rice] who is actually subjected to the violence on that tape, let’s talk about it here. I spent the morning communicating with people who work on issues involving domestic violence and violence against women nearly every day of their lives. They all said the same thing, without dissent: releasing this tape to the world is incredibly damaging to Janay Rice. Just as we would protect the name of an alleged rape victim, just as we would not show a video of Ray Rice committing a sexual assault, we should not be showing this video like it’s another episode of Rich People Behaving Badly. If Janay Rice wanted to show this tape to the world, in other words if she had offered her consent, that is a different matter. But showing and reshowing it just because we can is an act of harm[…]
If you were outraged by violence against women before, will seeing this video really change your mind? If you are not outraged by violence against women, does this video actually make a damn bit of difference? My fear, and this happens whenever you have videos that spark outrage until the next new cycle, is that all it will provoke are the kinds of reactions that don’t necessarily help anybody, least of all the victims. I hear influential people like ESPN’s Mike Greenberg asking the question, “Why isn’t Ray Rice in prison?”
There is no thought given to restorative justice. Only how do we further punish, impoverish and crowd our prisons. As for Janay Rice, she has of course been standing with Ray Rice, even marrying him after the incident. I have no doubt that there are issues there, but they become our damn business only if Janay Rice wants them to be our damn business. I will ask again: What does Janay Rice want, and shouldn’t that matter? If it doesn’t matter, all we are doing is re-victimizing this person one click at a time.